Craig Ferguson: ‘I'm sick of listening to people I agree with'

The comedian, actor, writer and drummer Craig Ferguson was born in Glasgow, grew up in Cumbernauld, and moved to the United States in the mid-1990s where he became the host of The Late Late Show.
An hour and a half. It's more anecdotal and observational. Zero politics. I made a decision a few years ago to keep it that way. I don't know about anyone else, but I'm even sick of listening to the people I agree with.
Fish supper with a fritter roll at Graziano's in Girvan.
We went to Millport. I loved it and still do. It's the Cap-Ferrat of the Clyde.
I don't know yet. I played the Edinburgh Festival Fringe in 2019, but everybody knows the festival isn't Scotland. It's

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After years as one of Britain's most popular podcasters, it makes sense that Adam Buxton is a very good chit-chatter. He's always engaged, genuinely listens, and can't help but be self-deprecating, even when randomly name-dropping a celebrity. 'I think I actually introduced Noel Gallagher to his first wife Meg Matthews while at T In The Park when I was hanging out with Travis,' Buxton segues during an answer about whether The Adam & Joe Show would be made today. 'But that's another story.' Originally running between December 1996, and May 1999, The Adam & Joe Show was the cult sketch show that first brought Buxton and his longtime collaborator Joe Cornish to the attention of audiences. The pair initially became friends as teenagers at the Westminster School in London, where they bonded over their love of comics, movies and TV and were also close with documentarian Louis Theroux. 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