'Hurt': Ukrainians in Poland worried by rise of nationalists
For several months, Halyna Muliar watched Poland's presidential campaign from home in Poznan, worried as candidates swerved further to the right and increasingly aimed nationalist slogans at Poland's 1.5 million Ukrainians -- war refugees and economic migrants.
The 58-year-old arrived in Poland weeks before Moscow's 2022 invasion of Ukraine and recalled, with emotion, the huge solidarity from Poles when an evacuation train from her hometown of Mykolaiv arrived with her daughter and other refugees.
But three years later, anti-Ukrainian rhetoric is part of mainstream Polish politics.
This weekend, Poles elected as president nationalist Karol Nawrocki, who throughout his campaign questioned the rights of Ukrainians in Poland.
"So much has changed," Muliar told AFP in Warsaw, where she had come from Poznan in the west to pick up a residency card.
"I'm worried by everything that was said during the campaign."
Nawrocki claimed Ukrainians "cause problems in hospital queues" and "should not live better than Poles", also accusing Kyiv of being ungrateful to its allies -- all arguments often used by the Polish far right.
His rival, Rafal Trzaskowski, the pro-EU presidential candidate, had urged people not to give into "Russian narratives" about Ukraine.
But -- in a failed bid to win far-right votes -- he still said some benefits paid out to Ukrainian refugees should be cut.
For Muliar, the mood in Poland has seriously worsened.
"First, it started with the documents, with the waits getting much longer," she told AFP.
Many Ukrainians have experienced longer bureaucratic procedures to obtain documents legalising their presence in Poland.
Then, she noticed social media was so full of anti-Ukrainian content she preferred not to open it.
Before long, she was the victim of xenophobic comments in shops "to which I just close my eyes".
She is not alone.
Ukrainians in Warsaw who AFP spoke to -- refugees and migrants who have been living in Poland for years -- were alarmed by the unprecedented hard-right tone of the campaign.
"The damage has been done," said Olena Babakova, a longtime observer of Polish-Ukrainian relations and of Poland's Ukrainian community.
- 'Took away hope' -
While the theme of migrants has dominated election campaigns in the conservative Catholic country for years, Babakova said this "for the first time became strictly directed against Ukrainians".
Nationalist Nawrocki has often raised 20th-century grievances between Poland and Ukraine.
The pro-EU camp also flirted with that rhetoric, which Babakova said "took away hope".
She predicted the people worst affected by the trend would be Ukrainians working in the service sector -- mostly women who have the most contact with Poles and "paradoxically, really want to integrate in Polish society".
Olga Klymenko is one of them.
She is one of the one million Ukrainian refugees in Poland and works in a hotel.
She fled Russian occupation in 2022, escaping Ukraine's city of Izyum under fire through Russia before obtaining asylum in Poland.
"It hurts and worries me," she told AFP. "It's hard to know what tomorrow will bring."
Like many, she worries about her status in Poland.
There is much uncertainty among refugees over the future of legalisation processes.
"My house is destroyed. If there is some pressure from Poland, I have nowhere to return to," Klymenko explained.
Se said she was waiting to see what kind of president Nawrocki would turn out to be.
The role of head of state is largely ceremonial in Poland but the president can veto government law.
Nawrocki's victory has boosted the chances of a far-right win in the 2027 parliamentary elections.
"If there are some laws and the president's programme is not in favour of Ukrainians, then I don't know what we'll do," Klymenko said.
- 'From the top' -
Poland's economy and ageing population are heavily reliant on a Ukrainian workforce.
But Ukrainians who have been living in Poland for years have also been unnerved by the election campaign.
Yulia Melnyk, who has been in Warsaw for seven years, was convinced the negative sentiment had been whipped up "from the top".
"It's convenient for politicians to use this kind of topic," the transport worker said.
She said she had seen "a lot of hate" on the internet but not, so far, "in real life".
But she admitted: "I am worried, and my family in Ukraine is worried that there will be hate towards Ukraine from the authorities themselves."
Ukrainian cook Serhiy, who has lived in Warsaw for six years, hoped the rhetoric was limited to a heated pre-election period.
The 28-year-old is also waiting to see what Nawrocki would be like in power.
"I hope he will focus less on populism and more on real problems," he said.
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Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelensky has accused Russian President Vladimir Putin of being uninterested in peace and acting like the authoritarian ruler of Iran, calling him 'Ayatollah Putin.' His comments came after Putin said that in his view, the whole of Ukraine was 'ours' and cautioned that advancing Russian forces could take the Ukrainian city of Sumy. The Ukrainian leader also said that despite Putin's assertions at the St Petersburg Economic Forum, which ended on Friday, the Russian economy is declining and he would like to push it further down. "The Russian economy is already crumbling. We will support this process even more," he said in Kiev. "Ayatollah Putin can look at his friends in Iran to see where such regimes end up, and how far into decay they drive their countries." Putin had reiterated Russia's claim to Ukraine at the forum and said he viewed Russians and Ukrainians as one people. He also said Russia had a saying -"Where the foot of a Russian soldier steps, that is ours." Ukraine's foreign minister Andrii Sybiha denounced Friday's statements as evidence of Russian "disdain" for US peace efforts and said Moscow was bent on seizing more territory and killing more Ukrainians. Wherever a Russian soldier sets foot, "he brings along only death, destruction, and devastation," Sybiha said. Russia currently controls about a fifth of Ukraine, including Crimea, more than 99 per cent of the Luhansk region, over 70 per cent of the Donetsk, Zaporizhzhia and Kherson regions, and fragments of the Kharkiv, Sumy and Dnipropetrovsk regions. Kyiv and its Western allies say Moscow's claims to four Ukrainian regions and Crimea are illegal, and President Zelenskiy has repeatedly rejected the notion that Russians and Ukrainians are one people. Putin said Moscow wanted Ukraine to accept the reality on the ground if there was to be a chance of peace - Russia's shorthand for the reality of Russia's control over a chunk of Ukrainian territory bigger than the US state of Virginia. "Russia wants to wage war," Zelensky said in his nightly video address. The continued threats coming from Russia mean that "the pressure the world is applying isn't hurting them enough yet." Zelenskiy said commanders had discussed action in Ukraine's northern Sumy region and that Russia had "various plans and intentions, completely mad as always. We are holding them back and eliminating these killers, defending our Sumy region." Putin said Russian forces were carving out a buffer zone in the Sumy region in order to protect Russian territory. Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelensky has accused Russian President Vladimir Putin of being uninterested in peace and acting like the authoritarian ruler of Iran, calling him 'Ayatollah Putin.' His comments came after Putin said that in his view, the whole of Ukraine was 'ours' and cautioned that advancing Russian forces could take the Ukrainian city of Sumy. The Ukrainian leader also said that despite Putin's assertions at the St Petersburg Economic Forum, which ended on Friday, the Russian economy is declining and he would like to push it further down. "The Russian economy is already crumbling. We will support this process even more," he said in Kiev. "Ayatollah Putin can look at his friends in Iran to see where such regimes end up, and how far into decay they drive their countries." Putin had reiterated Russia's claim to Ukraine at the forum and said he viewed Russians and Ukrainians as one people. He also said Russia had a saying -"Where the foot of a Russian soldier steps, that is ours." Ukraine's foreign minister Andrii Sybiha denounced Friday's statements as evidence of Russian "disdain" for US peace efforts and said Moscow was bent on seizing more territory and killing more Ukrainians. Wherever a Russian soldier sets foot, "he brings along only death, destruction, and devastation," Sybiha said. Russia currently controls about a fifth of Ukraine, including Crimea, more than 99 per cent of the Luhansk region, over 70 per cent of the Donetsk, Zaporizhzhia and Kherson regions, and fragments of the Kharkiv, Sumy and Dnipropetrovsk regions. Kyiv and its Western allies say Moscow's claims to four Ukrainian regions and Crimea are illegal, and President Zelenskiy has repeatedly rejected the notion that Russians and Ukrainians are one people. Putin said Moscow wanted Ukraine to accept the reality on the ground if there was to be a chance of peace - Russia's shorthand for the reality of Russia's control over a chunk of Ukrainian territory bigger than the US state of Virginia. "Russia wants to wage war," Zelensky said in his nightly video address. The continued threats coming from Russia mean that "the pressure the world is applying isn't hurting them enough yet." Zelenskiy said commanders had discussed action in Ukraine's northern Sumy region and that Russia had "various plans and intentions, completely mad as always. We are holding them back and eliminating these killers, defending our Sumy region." Putin said Russian forces were carving out a buffer zone in the Sumy region in order to protect Russian territory. Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelensky has accused Russian President Vladimir Putin of being uninterested in peace and acting like the authoritarian ruler of Iran, calling him 'Ayatollah Putin.' His comments came after Putin said that in his view, the whole of Ukraine was 'ours' and cautioned that advancing Russian forces could take the Ukrainian city of Sumy. The Ukrainian leader also said that despite Putin's assertions at the St Petersburg Economic Forum, which ended on Friday, the Russian economy is declining and he would like to push it further down. "The Russian economy is already crumbling. We will support this process even more," he said in Kiev. "Ayatollah Putin can look at his friends in Iran to see where such regimes end up, and how far into decay they drive their countries." Putin had reiterated Russia's claim to Ukraine at the forum and said he viewed Russians and Ukrainians as one people. He also said Russia had a saying -"Where the foot of a Russian soldier steps, that is ours." Ukraine's foreign minister Andrii Sybiha denounced Friday's statements as evidence of Russian "disdain" for US peace efforts and said Moscow was bent on seizing more territory and killing more Ukrainians. Wherever a Russian soldier sets foot, "he brings along only death, destruction, and devastation," Sybiha said. Russia currently controls about a fifth of Ukraine, including Crimea, more than 99 per cent of the Luhansk region, over 70 per cent of the Donetsk, Zaporizhzhia and Kherson regions, and fragments of the Kharkiv, Sumy and Dnipropetrovsk regions. Kyiv and its Western allies say Moscow's claims to four Ukrainian regions and Crimea are illegal, and President Zelenskiy has repeatedly rejected the notion that Russians and Ukrainians are one people. Putin said Moscow wanted Ukraine to accept the reality on the ground if there was to be a chance of peace - Russia's shorthand for the reality of Russia's control over a chunk of Ukrainian territory bigger than the US state of Virginia. "Russia wants to wage war," Zelensky said in his nightly video address. The continued threats coming from Russia mean that "the pressure the world is applying isn't hurting them enough yet." Zelenskiy said commanders had discussed action in Ukraine's northern Sumy region and that Russia had "various plans and intentions, completely mad as always. We are holding them back and eliminating these killers, defending our Sumy region." Putin said Russian forces were carving out a buffer zone in the Sumy region in order to protect Russian territory. Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelensky has accused Russian President Vladimir Putin of being uninterested in peace and acting like the authoritarian ruler of Iran, calling him 'Ayatollah Putin.' His comments came after Putin said that in his view, the whole of Ukraine was 'ours' and cautioned that advancing Russian forces could take the Ukrainian city of Sumy. The Ukrainian leader also said that despite Putin's assertions at the St Petersburg Economic Forum, which ended on Friday, the Russian economy is declining and he would like to push it further down. "The Russian economy is already crumbling. We will support this process even more," he said in Kiev. "Ayatollah Putin can look at his friends in Iran to see where such regimes end up, and how far into decay they drive their countries." Putin had reiterated Russia's claim to Ukraine at the forum and said he viewed Russians and Ukrainians as one people. He also said Russia had a saying -"Where the foot of a Russian soldier steps, that is ours." Ukraine's foreign minister Andrii Sybiha denounced Friday's statements as evidence of Russian "disdain" for US peace efforts and said Moscow was bent on seizing more territory and killing more Ukrainians. Wherever a Russian soldier sets foot, "he brings along only death, destruction, and devastation," Sybiha said. Russia currently controls about a fifth of Ukraine, including Crimea, more than 99 per cent of the Luhansk region, over 70 per cent of the Donetsk, Zaporizhzhia and Kherson regions, and fragments of the Kharkiv, Sumy and Dnipropetrovsk regions. Kyiv and its Western allies say Moscow's claims to four Ukrainian regions and Crimea are illegal, and President Zelenskiy has repeatedly rejected the notion that Russians and Ukrainians are one people. Putin said Moscow wanted Ukraine to accept the reality on the ground if there was to be a chance of peace - Russia's shorthand for the reality of Russia's control over a chunk of Ukrainian territory bigger than the US state of Virginia. "Russia wants to wage war," Zelensky said in his nightly video address. The continued threats coming from Russia mean that "the pressure the world is applying isn't hurting them enough yet." Zelenskiy said commanders had discussed action in Ukraine's northern Sumy region and that Russia had "various plans and intentions, completely mad as always. We are holding them back and eliminating these killers, defending our Sumy region." Putin said Russian forces were carving out a buffer zone in the Sumy region in order to protect Russian territory.
The Age
a day ago
- The Age
Putin says ‘the whole of Ukraine is ours'
St Petersburg: Russian President Vladimir Putin said that in his view, the whole of Ukraine was 'ours' and cautioned that advancing Russian forces could take the Ukrainian city of Sumy as part of a bid to carve out a buffer zone along the border. Ukraine's foreign minister denounced the statements as evidence of Russian 'disdain' for US peace efforts and said Moscow was bent on seizing more territory and killing more Ukrainians. Russia currently controls about a fifth of Ukraine, including Crimea, more than 99 per cent of the Luhansk region, over 70 per cent of the Donetsk, Zaporizhzhia and Kherson regions, and fragments of the Kharkiv, Sumy and Dnipropetrovsk regions. Asked about fresh Russian advances, Putin told the St Petersburg International Economic Forum that he considered Russians and Ukrainians to be one people and 'in that sense, the whole of Ukraine is ours'. Kyiv and its Western allies say Moscow's claims to four Ukrainian regions and Crimea are illegal, and Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelensky has repeatedly rejected the notion that Russians and Ukrainians are one people. He has also said that Putin's terms for peace are akin to capitulation. Loading Putin, who ordered troops into Ukraine in 2022 after eight years of fighting in eastern Ukraine, said on Friday (Saturday AEST) he was not questioning Ukraine's independence or its people's striving for sovereignty, but he underscored that when Ukraine declared independence as the Soviet Union fell in 1991 it had also declared its neutrality. Putin said Moscow wanted Ukraine to accept the reality on the ground if there was to be a chance of peace – Russia's shorthand for the reality of Russia's control over a chunk of Ukrainian territory bigger than the US state of Virginia.
